Cariba Heine (BAIT, H20: JUST ADD WATER, HIDING) and I talk about many things ranging from Zimbabwe to what does not serve her "one iota." I also reveal a tragic thing that happened to me in childhood, and she explains what she thinks makes a good actor. Cariba and I explore "down to earthness" allowing for the appreciation of different people, blunt streaks as a manifestation of resentment and the mutual exclusivity of social niceties and distinctive artistic expression.